ujmp hat geschrieben:Das kann jede Seite der anderen vorwerfen, hilft aber nicht weiter.
Das wird auch begründet und zwar sehr schlüssig, hast du das Paper gelesen und hast du es verstanden?
Siehe zum Beispiel auch hier:
http://www.nomas.org/node/107There are three major flaws in Straus' work. The first is that he used a set of questions that cannot discriminate between intent and effect [16]. This socalled Conflict Tactics Scale (or CTS) equates a woman pushing a man in self-defense to a man pushing a woman down the stairs [17]. It labels a mother as violent if she defends her daughter from the father's sexual molestation. It combines categories such as "hitting" and "trying to hit" despite the important difference between them [18].
Und so weiter und so fort...
So gut wie alle Studien, die eine Symmetrie behaupten beruhen auf der CTS.
ujmp hat geschrieben:Daten wären interessanter.
Ich kann die Frage gleich selbst beantworten: Anscheinend nicht. Hint: Das in Klammern mit den Namen und Zahlen, das sind die Daten. Das Paper selbst ist eine Review.
In dem Paper kommen selbst auch noch Wissenschaftler zu Wort, die der Meinung sind, dass ihre Ergebnisse missinterpretiert und missbraucht werden.
ujmp hat geschrieben:Du verstehst da was ganz falsch.
Apropos Kimmel, das fand ich auch interessant:
Q: What do you see as the sources of male violence against women?
Some of the sources of male violence as we've now come to understand come not from the initiation of aggression, not from the claiming of power, but rather men tend to be violent against women when they feel that their power is eroding, when it's slipping. In the patterns of male violence against women that we observe, spouse abuse, for example, rape, battery, things like that. The pattern of these responses tends to occur when men feel that their control over women is breaking down. So men, we see from the outside, we might see men initiating aggression against women, we might see men acting against women, but the men themselves don't experience it that way. They experience is as a revenge or retaliation. Like women have power over me because they're beautiful and sexual and I want them and they elicit that and I feel one down, I feel powerless. So the aggression then is to restore the balance rather than ... so the men...it's a very odd thing because what seems to be about men initiating aggresssion is actually about men seeming to trey to relevel the playing field.
Now of course, I mean we also have to say they're wrong. It is the intitiation of an aggression but men very often see it as a revenge or retaliation. I mean just listen for minute to the way in which we describe women's beauty and women's sexuality. We describe it as a violence against us. She is a knock-out, a bomb-shell, dressed-to-kill, a femme fatale, stunning, ravishing. I mean all of these are words of violence against us. You know, it's like Wow! She knocked me out. So the violence, then, or the aggression or the sexual violence is often a way to retaliate. I'll get even with them. They elicit this, they make me feel like they, I want them, and then they don't come thorugh. I'll get even with them. I'll show them. And so there's a kind of revenge element to it. So from the outside, it looks like the initiation of aggression, but from the inside, it looks like revenge or retaliation. I think it's important to get men to begin to see that what feels like revenge or retaliation is in reality initiation.
Das könnte erklären, warum sich die Täter gerne als Opfer sehen und den tatsächlichen Opfern dann Opfergehabe vorwerfen.
